User talk:TipsyElephant

Hey, TipsyElephant! I hope you don't mind, but I've added a lot of stuff to Blackout (podcast) and I've noticed you've contributed a lot, so I assumed you made the article at first. I wonder if it's good enough or it needs more? (I'm pretty sure it needs more.) Thanks in advance!

Nicole. Oh, she's elegantly clandestine... ✨ 07:33, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello ElegantlyClandestine, I'm glad you took an interest in the article. Don't worry, you don't need anyone's permission to edit an article because no one owns it. I did start the article a while back so that some one like you can expand it. However, at a glance it looks like you may have introduced a copyright violation by adding copy-pasted episode descriptions to the episode table. In the future please make sure to write everything in your own words. To improve and expand the article, I would recommend reading and summarizing the sources in your own words. You could expand the plot a bit while keeping in mind that the plot should not be too long. I would also recommend adding a reception that summarizes what reviewers thought about the show. If you run out of ideas for improving the article you could start a peer review, but make sure to read the instructions before you do so. If you've had the article peer reviewed, you could try a good article nomination where you will receive further review, however, I believe that is a ways off. TipsyElephant (talk) 00:29, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ooh, alright. Whoops. I’m gonna re-listen to the podcast once I’m done finishing season 2. Thanks! Nicole. Oh, she's elegantly clandestine... ✨ 00:38, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds good! Glad you enjoy the podcast. If you're interested in audio dramas you may want to check out some of the shows in category:Scripted podcasts. I hope the copyright issue doesn't discourage you from editing the article further. If you have any questions or need any help let me know. TipsyElephant (talk) 02:34, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not really, I’m just concerned about what they’ll do to my account. Wow, and I thought the episode descriptions were free-to-use… whoops. Nicole. Oh, she's elegantly clandestine... ✨ 03:34, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@ElegantlyClandestine: I believe that at most someone might add this Template:Nothanks-web to your talk page. It sounds like it was an honest mistake so I wouldn't worry about it. TipsyElephant (talk) 10:07, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Let's hope other people think that way. I think I'll be off the internet for a while anyway, taking a vacation off-town. Nicole. Oh, she's elegantly clandestine... ✨ 12:44, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Draft The Earful Tower Podcast[edit]

Working on the new Draft:The_Earful_Tower_Podcast per your instructions. Any pointers before I submit it for review?

I realized that one of my key sources is behind a paywall (NYT). Is there an accepted best practice in these cases? - Submit source URL as-is - Use wayback machine - Do not use paywalled sources?

Thanks! Atolkachev (talk) 20:54, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Atolkachev: per WP:PAYWALL the NYT and other paywalled or difficult to access sources are fine. Your biggest hurdle will be WP:GNG or WP:NPODCAST. I would recommend reading WP:GOLDENRULE for a brief overview of what's expected. I think I saw mention of a National Geographic source, which could help improve the chance (community consensus is that the source is generally reliable: WP:NATGEO). TipsyElephant (talk) 00:14, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! I have not tracked down the source of the Nat Geo quote yet. I found a recent segment on the US TV where the podcast host was main contributor on and off camera, so I added it to the Host section. There seems to be a fine line between making whoever reviews the article’s see the podcast well known and highly relevant in its genre and promoting it. I went to Apple Podcasts and typed “Paris” in the search. The podcast I am writing about came up in the third position. But how to highlight this on Wikipedia? The host mentioned over 4 million episode downloads. Should I quote the relevant episode as the source for this data? I don’t think this data is public. Thanks for all your patient clarifications. Atolkachev (talk) 05:51, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Still polishing Draft:The_Earful_Tower_Podcast before submitting it. In 2018, the readers of Expatriates Magazine voted the podcast best in Paris. The Wayback Machine preserved the voting form https://web.archive.org/web/20181122101847/http://paris.expatriatesmagazine.com/best-podcast-in-paris-2018/ but the website has since become defunct. Is there a way to reference this accolade? Currently, the citation points to a dead website. Is it better to have no citation at all or a broken citation showing an attempt in good faith of the editor? Do I have to remove the mention of the voting if I cannot back it up with a URL?

And can I draw your attention to the question I asked above about attributing the information on 4 million downloads to the podcast itself? Information like this will not be available publicly, does that mean it dose not belong on Wikipedia? Thank you! Atolkachev (talk) 17:07, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Atolkachev: considering paris.expatriatesmagazine.com appears to be a defunct blog, which is not notable I would say that the award contributes little to nothing toward the notability of the podcast. If the only source you have for the number of downloads is the podcast itself, I would say that violates WP:ABOUTSELF. It would be best if you could find a reliable secondary source for the claim. TipsyElephant (talk) 17:55, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]